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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Century Gothic"><span
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Marina,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic";color:navy'>A few years
ago David Muller produced and directed an excellent piece of science theatre called
‘African Legends of the Moon in the Sun’, that was performed at the
MTN Sciencentre and elsewhere. This play is about traditional African astronomy
beliefs and legends, with a particular emphasis on solar and lunar eclipses.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic";color:navy'>This play
could possibly be revived for IYP if some finances can be found.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Century Gothic"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic";color:navy'>I have copied
this email to David Muller, and you should get in direct contact with him
should you wish to redevelop this play.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext'> astronet-bounces@mail.saasta.ac.za
[mailto:astronet-bounces@mail.saasta.ac.za] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Marina Joubert<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 18 September 2008 11:36<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Kevin Govender'; 'astronet'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [AstroNet] IYA and
indigenous astronomical knowledge</span></font><font color=black><span
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Dear Kevin</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Please also remember about the storybook
that I produced for SAASTA called "The crocodile who swallows the
Sun", based on astronomical folklore (it was supported by DST at the time,
but I am very keen to take the project further by possibly translating it (and
re-publishing) in other indigenous languages).</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Marina Joubert</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>SOUTHERN SCIENCE, <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
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astronet-bounces@mail.saasta.ac.za [mailto:astronet-bounces@mail.saasta.ac.za] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Kevin Govender<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 18 September 2008 11:29<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> astronet<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [AstroNet] IYA and
indigenous astronomical knowledge</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>Greetings to the AstroNet list<br>
Please see below regarding indigenous astronomy and contact me if you have
ideas to implement activities during IYA.<br>
What is especially needed is someone who is willing to champion the Indigenous
Astronomy part of IYA (and possibly beyond).<br>
Regards<br>
Kevin<br>
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<pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hi Keith<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>This email was forwarded to me by the AstroNet moderator so that we <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>could discuss first before sending to the full list.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>There are definitely plans - the key players at the moment are Iziko <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Planetarium (Themba), SAAO (Sivuyile and Thebe), and Unizul science <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>centre (Mdumiseni).<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>For IYA we are looking to produce some additional materials to assist in <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>outreach. As you say it's a very good tool to make the link with science <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>amongst common people.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Your expertise in the field would be highly appreciated. Please send us <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>ideas that you have.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Do you know about the African Cultural Astronomy Project? It is run by <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Johnson Urama in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Nigeria</st1:place></st1:country-region>. (<a
href="http://www.africastronomy.org/">http://www.africastronomy.org/</a>)<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Let's keep brainstorming - I will send this out to the AstroNet list for <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>their information<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Kevin<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From: "Keith Snedegar" <a
href="mailto:SNEDEGKE@uvu.edu"><SNEDEGKE@uvu.edu></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>To: <a
href="mailto:astronet@mail.saasta.ac.za"><astronet@mail.saasta.ac.za></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 6:56 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Subject: IYA and indigenous astronomical knowledge<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I wonder if there are any plans to incorporate presentations of indigenous <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>African astronomical knowledge in the celebrations of IYA. The touring <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>exhibit of <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Timbuktu</st1:place></st1:City> manuscripts might provide one opportunity. Thebe Medupe <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>is leading a team of scholars studying the astronomical content of these <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>medieval texts. The film, Cosmic Africa, also is a healthy introduction to <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>the practice of sky watching in African societies. And the "African Nights" <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>sky show produced by the Iziko Museum Planetarium some years ago could <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>possibly be revived.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>It seems to me that the value of "cultural astronomy" presentations is in <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>bridging the gap between the scientific profession and common people who <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>might otherwise believe astronomy to be something altogether alien from <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>mundane life. I have some background in studying the astronomical practices <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>of African peoples and would be glad to support any indigenous knowledge <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>aspect of IYA activities.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Keith Snedegar<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Professor of History<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><st1:place
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>Utah</span></font></st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">Valley</st1:PlaceType> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>800 <st1:Street
w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">W. University Parkway</st1:address></st1:Street><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Orem</span></font></st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">UT</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode
w:st="on">84058-5999</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>(801) 863-8847 voice<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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font-family:Arial'>No virus found in this incoming message.<br>
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com<br>
Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1677 - Release Date: 2008-09-17
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